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Counting in Japanese

agowa338 agowa338 Mar 08, 2024 · 5 mins read
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Because it was surprisingly complicated to google for this piece of information I'm going to note it down in my public 'journal' aka. notebook aka. blog aka. whatever page.

If you're watching a movie or reading something translated from Japanese you may encounter nubmers written in a way that doesn't alling with what you'll find when just googling 'japanese numbering system' or 'japanese numbers' that look like a string out of these five characters: 𝍲, 𝍳, 𝍴, 𝍵, 𝍶.

That is because they are not actually Japanese numbers (see below) at all but a so called "tally mark" (an "Ideographic Tally Mark" to be precise) that get used in China as well as Japan (and some other places). The character 𝍶 itself represents 5. There are other 'base 5' counting (or better writing) systems:

  • In Europe, Anglosphere, and Southern Africa (note, technically these are the wrong unicode characters, but the correct ones didn't appear to work as they should, so...): 𝍩, 𝍪, 𝍫, 𝍬, and 𝍸
  • In Franc, Portugal, Spain, their (former) colonies (including Latin America) as well within some card games this system gets used (I didn't find official unicode characters for them, so I'm going to use different but similarly looking ones): 𝍩, Γ, Π, ☐, ⍂
  • In forestry and some other fields a similar system is used. It however is kinda odd because it isn't truly base-5 nor base-10, but kinda a mix of both. It is commonly refered to as either "dot and line tally" or "dot-dash tally". There are currently no unicode characters for it. Therefore here is an image (created by Pinethicket): Blog
  • (Cultures using the Chinese characters (or that have imported or derived from it) already know these, as that's where this system originated from)
On another note, the number zero "0" doesn't exist in most counting rod systems, however in some it does (as well as negative numbers including also a negative zero). Its origin however is not entirely clear and could have been from multiple sources. Either the Chinese text space filler "□" character (that most programmers and it people already know and love for representing a missing, or better not displayable, character like because of an encoding error) or the Indian numerals "〇" (U+3007, not to be confused with 'our' regular "0" U+004f). However even in the systems where it does exist it is mostly represented by a space on the counting board as it doesn't 'extend' to the following numbers as the other rod numerals. This introduces the issue that at least intermittendly 10007, 107, as well as 17 look similar except for the space. This can be solved by using columns on the counting board. One for each digit (two columns for double-digit numbers and eight for eight-digit ones). This issue however only occures when doing calculations using them. Doing so however removes the advantage for counting. This issue does not exist for counting it would not be written that way but as a series of 5's instead. e.g. 17 would be 𝍶𝍶𝍶𝍳 (5+5+5+2). Therefore these numbers are often transcribed into different forms after counting to make them more easily readable without having to summarize them every time, at least where a different numbering system from base 5 is used (I don't know if anywhere in the world base 5 is used for nombers though, using it for counting rods however appears to be universal).
Some even have fractions. However they are easily confusable for just a 2nd line of numbers as they are represented by writing two of them on top of each other. On computers this can be done by writing the fraction slash character "U+2044" in between the two numbers. This should (didn't correctly for the counting rod numbers when testing) move the first number on top of the 2nd one (and for hindu-arabic numers it should write them as e.g. "1/2" but within one symbol).
The symbol for negative numbers is represented by prefixing the rod numberals with the reverse solidus overlay "U+20E5".

Japanese Numbers

Source: Wikipedia (Japanese_numerals)

NumberCharacterOnreadingKunreading[1]Preferred reading
0/*rei /れいmaru /まるzero /ゼロ(loanword,gairaigo)
1ichi / いちhito(tsu) / ひと・つichi
2ni / にfuta(tsu) / ふた・つni
3san / さんmit(tsu) / みっ・つsan
4shi / しyon, yot(tsu) / よん、よっ・つyon
5go / ごitsu(tsu) / いつ・つgo
6roku / ろくmut(tsu) / むっ・つroku
7shichi / しちnana(tsu) / なな・つnana
8hachi / はちyat(tsu) / やっ・つhachi
9ku, kyū/ く, きゅうkokono(tsu) / ここの・つkyū
10jū / じゅうtō / とお
20二十ni-jū / にじゅう(hata / はた)†ni-jū
30三十san-jū / さんじゅう(miso / みそ)†san-jū
40四十shi-jū / しじゅう(yoso / よそ)†yon-jū
50五十go-jū / ごじゅう(iso / いそ)†go-jū
60六十roku-jū / ろくじゅう(muso / むそ)†roku-jū
70七十shichi-jū / しちじゅう(nanaso / ななそ)†nana-jū
80八十hachi-jū / はちじゅう(yaso / やそ)†hachi-jū
90九十ku-jū / くじゅう(kokonoso / ここのそ)†kyū-jū
100hyaku / ひゃく(momo / もも)†hyaku
500五百go-hyaku / ごひゃく(io / いお)†go-hyaku
800八百hap-pyaku / はっぴゃく(yao / やお)†hap-pyaku
1,000sen / せん(chi / ち)†sen
10,000man / まん(yorozu / よろず)†man
100,000,000oku / おくoku
1,000,000,000,000chō / ちょうchō
10,000,000,000,000,000kei / けいkei

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